John Holmes and The Wonderland Murders

Publish date: 2024-05-07

What exactly led to these murders? And what was John Holmes role in this?

It’s crazy to think he died 2 years after this happened.

I am shocked that this hasn’t been turned into a Mini-Series. Ryan Murphy should turn this into American Crime Story.

I never even knew about these murders until recently. Why is this not spoken about as much as the Manson murders or other infamous murders?

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by Anonymousreply 28October 6, 2020 4:34 PM

they made a movie about it - two in fact - wonderland with Val Kilmer and Boogie Nights which was loosely based on it.

by Anonymousreply 1October 4, 2020 1:59 AM

Boogie Nights isn’t about it. At all. They just had one sequence which was about it but otherwise most of it was fake

by Anonymousreply 2October 4, 2020 2:00 AM

It was low-lifes killing low-lifes.

by Anonymousreply 3October 4, 2020 2:03 AM

John Holmes is why I became size queen. I found one of my dad old porn flicks at the top of his closet one day. I think I was either 11 or 12. I put it in the VCR and saw John Holme's cock. The rest is history.

They made a movie about Wonderland. I think Lisa Kudrow was in it and played his wife.

by Anonymousreply 4October 4, 2020 2:06 AM

I hate the way he looked in the one gay scene he did.

by Anonymousreply 5October 4, 2020 2:17 AM

You could tell he was coked out of his mind R5.

by Anonymousreply 6October 4, 2020 2:18 AM

Yes, WONDERLAND was not bad on a biographical level.

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by Anonymousreply 7October 4, 2020 2:23 AM

WONDERLAND is certainly better than anything Ryan Murphy could do with it.

by Anonymousreply 8October 4, 2020 2:25 AM

Wonderland tried making John Holmes into someone you feel bad for. In reality he was the one who planned it all.

by Anonymousreply 9October 4, 2020 2:28 AM

Holmes did more than one gay porno - he did one when he was much younger - no sound. The second was some weird Genie thing and I am not sure he was hard.

by Anonymousreply 10October 4, 2020 2:41 AM

Thanks r10. He looks way better in the early one.

by Anonymousreply 11October 4, 2020 2:55 AM

I've never seen the early one. Do you have a link?

by Anonymousreply 12October 4, 2020 3:00 AM

The early one wasn’t done for a studio. It was more experimental before he became a huge porn star.

The second was something they tried to get him to do for years and he finally did it because he was paid a lot. Also, he already knew he had AIDS when he agreed to do the gay porn.

by Anonymousreply 13October 4, 2020 3:10 AM

He looked nice when young. After a few years he looked like shit

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by Anonymousreply 14October 4, 2020 3:33 AM

He couldn’t get hard for the penetration

by Anonymousreply 16October 4, 2020 4:07 AM

Someone please start a new thread bout 80s and 90s str8 porn swordsmen.

I know some of you guys on here have a great amount of knowledge .

Some ol my school favs like

Frank James

Tony Martino

Buck Adams

Don Fernando

And of course Northy Poo

by Anonymousreply 18October 4, 2020 8:22 AM

One of my colleagues was a friend of Eddie Nash. Sometimes when visiting my colleague and his wife, Eddie would be around along with his Russian girlfriend. We would go to dinner and usually a movie. Eddie was always very nice and made for a good evening. Never did we discuss his past. Later in the years, Eddie made a deal to be charged with RICO violations and went to prison for a few years. He passed away in 2014 and my colleague has since passed. I often think if we were watched while going about the town.

by Anonymousreply 19October 4, 2020 1:49 PM

Holmes was notoriously Bi in is offscreen life. He enjoyed the company of men and if they wanted to pay for his cock so be it.

by Anonymousreply 20October 4, 2020 7:27 PM

R20 I’m pretty sure that’s not true

by Anonymousreply 21October 4, 2020 7:48 PM

Was his huge cock bisexual?

by Anonymousreply 22October 4, 2020 7:52 PM

He didn’t fuck men in his personal life unless being paid for it

by Anonymousreply 23October 4, 2020 7:53 PM

John Holmes was such a shitty guy I’m so many ways. They were all low life’s but we know he was a pedo, who beat and pimped out his underaged girlfriend.

by Anonymousreply 24October 4, 2020 7:58 PM

r21 it is totally true. He has sex with men before he ever got into porn. He was never open about it because it because once aids broke no woman in porn would go near a guy they even thought was having sex with men.

by Anonymousreply 26October 6, 2020 2:29 PM

r21 it is totally true. He has sex with men before he ever got into porn. He was never open about it because it because once aids broke no woman in porn would go near a guy they even thought was having sex with men.

by Anonymousreply 27October 6, 2020 2:29 PM

After reading the autobio of his then-underaged girlfriend Dawn Schiller, I'm pretty convinced that Holmes was a sociopathic piece of shit. The Wonderland movie cut the abuse out of the relationship entirely, which makes it pretty much worthless.

If you want an excellent overview of the murders, Holmes' backstory, and his relationship with Dawn, the Wonderland Murders podcast is worth listening to.

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by Anonymousreply 28October 6, 2020 4:34 PM

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